SB: The luggage that we sent by rail, stayed at the freight station and we couldn't get it.
This freight station was bombed and everything was lost. So we lost everything.
The war broke out on Friday, Saturday, Sunday we noticed the residents of Cracow were leaving.
It was an exodus...Everything that could move, bikes, cars, horse-drawn buggies, everything was moving.
We thought, where should we go? Where should we go? Whatever happens will happen.
And we stayed in Cracow and on Wednesday morning or early Wednesday, the first troops came though the ring.
And arrived, marched into Cracow and we were in Cracow.
We, as refugees, had to spend the winter in Cracow, and it was already war.
We were penniless, didn't have any help.
But the flow of refugees to Cracow, from the west, when the war broke out, was very strong and Cracow was overcrowded with residents.
Then they said, in summer anyone who arrived in Cracow after a certain date had to leave and move further into the country.
as a way to free the city from the overflow of residents.
And we arrived in a small village and then as I said, a delegation came from this workcamp and we were registered, young laborers, I was 14 years old at the time.
It was 1939 and I came to this work camp and...
IV: And that was your separation from your parents.
SB: That was the separation from my parents and my brother.
And since then...and I know that from this area the people were sent to a certain extermination camp, not work...not concentration camp, to Belzec
That was an extermination camp in Poland and the people were killed there.
IV: Now we filled the last gap.
SB: That was the last gap, not in order, but...
IV2: It is not important that it be in order.
IV: Good, than I have another request, that we film you and your wife as you walk around a bit.
CM: I haven't filmed the tattoo. Do we need that? KL?
IV: Could you tell me again how you got this unusual tattoo.
SB: In Mielec they suddently said that we were going to be tattooed. That was quite normal.
We stood in line, in a row, and I think there were one or two, two people, and I don't know who, and this KL:
And today I am often asked, what is that. Because it is quite rare...People don't know it. They are not familiar with it.
IV: I don't know it either.
SB: What? You don't?
IV: No, I didn't know it.
SB: As I said, the people who came from Mielec and that wasn't a large group, they had this KL.
IV: And here in Flossenbürg there were just numbers on the...
SB: In Flossenbürg there were just the numbers that were given with the triangles.
IV: Mmh.
SB: Yes, I had, we, Jews had two triangles, the politicals had...
The politicals were green, I think, no red. The politicals were red and the yellow triangle was for Jews.
Later there was the Jewish star. Yes, when you turn it around, then it makes the Jewish star. And that is what we had.
IV: OK, Günther?
CM: Yes.
IV: Thank you.